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RAIL, BUS, METHODS OF PAYMENTS AND ROADS


Updated 7/9/20
Timetable Changes to Southern Rail (& Thameslink) from Monday 7 September 2020

Revised timetable London/East Grinstead from from 7/9/20 - and scroll down to K



RAIL
RIDDLESDOWN STATION IS IN LONDON TRAVELCARD ZONE 6. UPPER WARLINGHAM IS ALSO IN ZONE 6 AND IS THE LAST STATION ON THIS LINE, WITHIN THE LONDON ZONES 1 to 6.


For those residents who are not regular users of Riddlesdown Station - Southern and Thameslink do at times run trains with 10 to 12 carriages. To be sure of getting off at Riddlesdown (from London), ensure you are in carriages 1 to 9, because these trains are longer than the platform and the doors on carriages 10 to 12 will not open. Next stop is Upper Warlingham! Carriage 6 is usually by the exit at Riddlesdown on trains from London.

On trains from East Grinstead, it is usually carriage 4 by the exit. Next stop is Sanderstead!


RAIL TIMETABLES

RIDDLESDOWN/LONDON/LUTON/BEDFORD TRAIN TIMES

Southern Rail and Thameslink trains to and from Riddlesdown

DUE TO CORONA VIRUS THIS TIMETABLE BELOW IS NOT FULLY OPERATIONAL.

Please use; Revised timetable London/East Grinstead from from 7/9/20 -
and scroll down to K


National Rail Key; RDD - Riddlesdown; VIC - London Victoria; LBG - London Bridge; STP - London St Pancras; BDM - Bedford; ECR - East Croydon; LUT - Luton; OXT - Oxted; EGR - East Grinstead.


To London and/or Bedford from Riddlesdown;

Weekdays: All trains terminate at London Victoria, unless otherwise stated in brackets; 6.06, 06.15(to LBG, STP, BDM), 06.35, 06.42(to LBG, STP, BDM), 07.06, 07.15(to LBG, STP, BDM), 07.36, 07.45(to LBG, STP, BDM), 08.06, 08.15(to LBG, STP, BDM), 08.36, 08.45(to LBG, STP, BDM), 09.06, 09.15(to LBG, STP, BDM), 09.36 and then 06 and 36 mins past hour until last train at 23.36.

Saturdays (To London Victoria only): 07.06, 07.36, and then 06 and 36 mins past hour until 23.36.

Sundays (To London Victoria only) 08.42, and then 12 and 42 mins past hour until 23.44.


To and from London Bridge and Bedford - No direct services Saturdays & Sundays.


From London Victoria to East Grinstead stopping at Riddlesdown;

Times in brackets are the arrival times at Riddlesdown for departures on to Oxted & East Grinstead.

Weekdays: 05.20(05.49), 05.50(06.18), 06.20(06.48), 06.50(07.18), 07.20(07.48), 07.50(08.18), 08.20(08.48), 08.50(09.18), 09.20(09.48), and then 50(18) and 20(48) mins past the hour until 22.52(23.18), 23.22(23.48), 23.53(00.23 - to Oxted only).

Saturdays: 06.20(06.48), 06.50(07.18) and then 20(48)and 50(18) mins past hour until 23.53(00.23 - to Oxted only).

Sundays: 07.43(08.17), 08.51(09.17), 09.21(09.47), 09.51(10.17), and then 21(47) & 51(17) mins past hour until 22.51(23.17).


From Bedford (BDM) or Luton (LUT) via London St Pancras (STP) & London Bridge(LBG) to East Grinstead stopping at Riddlesdown;

Weekdays only: 15.49(LUT)(17.05); 16.06(BDM) at LBG 17.11(17.35); 16.32(BDM) at LBG 17.41(18.05); 17.21(LUT) at LBG 18.11(18.35); 17.28(BDM) at LBG 18.41(19.05); 17.56(BDM) at LBG 19.11(19.35).


From East Croydon to East Grinstead stopping at Riddlesdown;

Weekdays: 05.41(49), 06.10(18), 06.40(48), 07.10(18), 07.40(48), then 10(18) and 40(48) mins past hour until 16.55(05), 17.10(18), 17.25(35), 17.40(48), 17.56(05), 18.10(18), 18.25(35), 18.40(48), 18.55(05), 19.10(18), 19.25(35), 19.40(48), then 10(18)mins and 40(48) mins past hour until 00.14(23 - to Oxted only).

Saturdays: 06.40(06.48), 07.10(07.18) and then 40(48) and 10(18) mins past hour until 00.14(00.23) - to Oxted only).

Sundays: 08.09(08.17), 09.09(17), 09.39(47), and then 09(17) and 39(47) mins past the hour until 23.09(17).


Timetables are subject to change, so if in doubt, check with Southern Railway, Tfl or National Rail.

The above times are shown in good faith. If anyone notices any errors will you please contact the RRA. The RRA cannot accept any responsibility for the accuracy of the above information.


Please check before travelling with the train operator and/or Network Rail.


Rail engineering works on the Riddlesdown line

Updated 22/11/20


Passengers who travel between East Grinstead/Uckfield and stations to London are being asked to check their journey plans over the next few weekends when Network Rail will undertake strengthening, repair and refurbishment work to the Oxted viaduct, over the A25.











The viaduct comprises eight arches carrying railway lines over the A25 road and the river Eden. Significant maintenance work is being undertaken, such as steel and masonry repairs, as well as replacement of walkways. The viaduct is currently covered in scaffold and netting.


This means rail lines will be closed for some dates when train services will not run, with buses linking to Purley station.


The are currently no further engineering works planned closing our rail line.


Although rail replacement buses will be running to Purley Station - they will NOT serve Riddlesdown or Sanderstead Stations.


Replacement buses will run between Purley and Hurst Green calling at Upper Warlingham and Oxted. A shuttle bus service will operate between Woldingham and Upper Warlingham. No rail replacement buses will serve Sanderstead, or Riddlesdown. Change at Purley or East Croydon for trains to/from London.


Passengers at or for Sanderstead Station should use local bus route 403 between Beechwood Road / Mayfield Road bus stop and South Croydon, or West Croydon station, or use Purley Oaks as an alternative station, which is 0.3 miles away. But please note, Purley Oaks does not have step free access. Please contact Southern’s assisted travel team on 0800 138 1016 should you need step free access.


Passengers using Riddlesdown will have to get the 412 bus service from Mitchley Ave, (Lower Barn Rd stop) near to Buttermere Gardens (or from the Riddlesdown Collegiate stop near Ingleboro Drive) to Purley town centre (Tesco stop). Passengers will need to check the time of the buses from the Lower Barn Rd stop going westbound to Purley. Alternatively walking (or driving) to Purley Station is another option. Purley station is approximately a 20 minute walk from Riddlesdown station.


The 403 bus route can also be used from Limpsfield Rd (either the 'All Saints Church' stop by the roundabout, or the 'Sanderstead Recreation Ground' stop, or the 'Sanderstead Methodist Church' stop by Mitchley Hill) to South Croydon, or West Croydon stations. East Croydon Station can be walked to from the Park Lane/Wellesley Rd stops.


Southern rail tickets will be accepted on both the 412 and 403 buses.


Riddlesdown has been served with a replacement rail bus service for decades when engineering works have taken place but GTR starting using the 412 bus as an alternative rail replacement service since the beginning of this year. Although passengers are currently being told to make essential rail travel only, we believe more passengers will use the rail service in due course at weekends.


If any resident may need more assistance, Southern have an established accessibility policy to support those with access needs. Their assisted travel team would be happy to discuss any assistance which may be required to help in a journey during engineering works.  Full contact details are available here:

www.southernrailway.com/travel-information/travel-help/assisted-travel


More information about the engineering works on this Southern Rail link

Click on the relevant date.


Further weekend work engineering dates will be advised by Network Rail soon.

Download poster in pdf














































FOR FULL TIMETABLES FOLLOW THESE LINKS


The current Riddlesdown Southern Rail train timetables
(Scroll down to the Uckfield and East Grinstead to London link - No 29)


Thameslink timetables

(Scroll down to Bedford and Luton to London - No. 1
and also use Uckfield and East Grinstead to London - No. 29)


National Rail Enquiries: Tel: 03457 48 49 50

www.nationalrail.co.uk


To check for Engineering Works on Southern


Southern Customer Services: Tel: 03451 27 29 20 (07.00 - 22.00 hrs)

www.southernrailway.com/

Train Compensation

Season ticket compensation scheme for Thameslink trains from Riddlesdown (Additional industry compensation); Posted 20/7/18

https://www.thameslinkrailway.com/help-and-support/journey-problems/delay-repay/additional-industry-compensation

Delay Repay compensation - Southern Rail


BLUEBELL RAILWAY

From 23 March 2013, the privately owned and voluntarily run Bluebell Railway will be connected to the national rail system at East Grinstead, meaning that Riddlesdown residents can get on a train from Riddlesdown Station and travel from Riddlesdown to East Grinstead and then transfer onto the Bluebell Railway.  

Further information and update reports: Link to Bluebell Railway

‘Tornado’ Steam Train Passes Through Riddlesdown - September 2013


LOCAL BUS ROUTE AND TIMES


Information from TfL
Update on TfL plans for school services during

and after the October half-term
Updated 26/10/20

“I am writing to update you on our plans to continue providing School Services to help support safe and sustainable transport for school travel.


We are planning to continue running additional School Services on our bus network after the October half term until the end of the current term in December. School Services would continue to operate similarly to how they have been in the first half of the autumn term, with extra services running and up to half of all buses on certain higher-frequency routes signed as 'School Services' during peak times for school travel.  The full list of routes that have School Services and additional services can be found at: https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/bus-changes


The Department for Education (DfE), in collaboration with the Department for Transport (DfT), has allocated funding for school services to continue at their current level for the rest of 2020. This is part of the DfE’s work with Local Transport Authorities nationwide and is separate to our ongoing discussions with the Government over the wider funding support we require following the impact of coronavirus on our finances.


Please note that, for the most part, School Services will not operate during the October half-term (26 to 31 October). This will be subject to variations depending on local requirements and we are working with schools and our bus operators to understand where these services may still be required, for example where half term dates vary.


We’d appreciate your support in cascading this update directly to all schools in your borough and sharing this as widely as possible across your communications channels.


We will continue to monitor demand on London’s bus network to ensure we are providing the most frequent and reliable services possible. We are also continuing to encourage young people to walk, cycle or scoot to school if they can, and for other customers using public transport to travel outside school travel times if possible.  We are asking our customers to continue to follow the latest  government guidance to ensure they use public transport safely. This includes:   



We are committed to working with schools and colleges to help with safe and sustainable travel to schools.  We would encourage schools and colleges with any feedback or enquiries to continue contacting us at: ReopeningEducation@tfl.gov.uk


I hope this update is useful. Please let me know if you have any further questions.


Best wishes

Michelle Wildish

Engagement officer - south”


Local Bus Route and Frequency

Bus 412 (Arriva) - Updated 17/1/20


The permanent changes happened in central Croydon to the 412 bus route on Saturday 2 November 2019, with the bus service no longer running between Katharine Street and West Croydon, (including the Whitgift Centre stops in Wellesley Rd) and vice versa.


As Michelle Wildish from TfL said at the RRA AGM in May, they are constantly reviewing all bus services in London. The way people travel around London is constantly changing and over the past five years usage of route 412 has dropped by 12 per cent. Unfortunately, it is the usual story - use it or lose it.


Frequency (approximately)

Weekdays & Saturdays: Daytime; 20 mins, Evenings; 30 mins.

Frequency Sundays; 30 mins.


Since the re-organisation of the route last November 2019, we understand there maybe confusion with some residents as to where the 412 bus route, which is the only bus service that serves Riddlesdown directly, starts and ends in Croydon town centre.


In summary the 412 Service is;
From Croydon, the 412 stands and starts in Katharine Street (by Queen’s Gardens - along with the 109 which goes towards West Croydon; 405 routes) and then travels via the Croydon Flyover in High Street, South End, Selsdon Rd, Upper Selsdon Rd, Addington Rd (stop for Selsdon), Rectory Park, Mitchley Ave, Downs Court Rd, Godstone Rd, Pampisford Rd & ends on Brighton Rd (High Street) opposite the Purley Hospital.

From Purley, the service is nearly in reverse direction starting from Purley Downlands Precint, (Brighton Rd) then left into Godstone Rd, Down Court Rd and terminates at the bus stand in Katharine Street, Croydon (by Queen’s Gardens).

The 412 route (and timetable) is on this TfL link:


612 (School Bus Service ONLY)

The 612 only runs on school days (Mon to Fri) and is 2 services in the morning (Selsdon to Wallington) and 2 services in the afternoon (Wallington to Selsdon).

The 612 route (and timetable) is on this TfL link


403 Bus route

For those close enough in Riddlesdown to be able to get to the Limpsfield Rd, the 403 is an alternative route which starts at Sainsbury's in Warlingham (travels via Limpsfeld Rd, Sanderstead) and terminates at the West Croydon Bus Station, and then vice versa from West Croydon Bus Station to Warlingham.

The 403 route (and timetable) is on this TfL link:


Planning a Journey

To Plan a bus, train, tram, tube, bike or walking journey from Riddlesdown, follow this link to the Tfl website and insert “Riddlesdown” in the “From” box. Link


London Bus Route Maps Link

Tfl - Customer Services: 0343 222 1234 - Link

Arriva London Tel 020 8271 0101 (0800-2000 Monday to Friday)

Website: www.arrivalondon.com/


(Sources: Trains: GTR/Southern Railway/Thameslink; Buses: Transport for London (TfL).

Timetables are subject to change, so if in doubt, check with Tfl or the Operator(s). The RRA cannot accept any responsibility for the accuracy of the above information.


Fares on Public Transport


Transport for London (TfL) travel on the trams, buses, Docklands light railway (DLR) and London overground rail line


Trying to find the cheapest fare on public transport in London can be a complex issue!


For travel and the best fare method to use on the TfL buses, tram, DLR and the London Overground rail line (the nearest rail station is West Croydon) then click on the link below.

Note all TfL buses in London are now cash free.


TfL INFORMATION ON FARES AND TICKETS IN LONDON


Train tickets and fares from Riddlesdown Station


Riddlesdown Station is in London Zone 6 and is served by Southern and Thameslink trains which both come under the GTR (Govia Thameslink Railway) franchise.


Upper Warlingham (although outside of the London Boroughs) is the last rail station in Zone 6 on our East Grinstead rail line.


For travel on Southern Rail trains go to this link for ticket information and advance purchase.


For travel on Thameslink trains go to this link for ticket information and advance purchase


National Rail also offer a ticket fare check/advance purchase for all rail franchises nationwide.



Since September 2014 you are able to use contactless cards on the tube, tram, DLR, London Overground and most National Rail services in London.

Further details on this TfL link


Generally contactless cards and Oyster are the cheapest fares in London and the fares are capped. More information on this TfL link


Unfortunately the ticket office at Riddlesdown Station – with the ticket clerk required to sell the best value ticket at each transaction is not open very often these days. Ticket buying can now be done at a ticket vending machine (TVM) – which also allows the collection of tickets bought on line. Riddlesdown has two TVM’s, one on each platform. When it is used to select tickets many options are available. However it maybe be best to purchase the ticket on line first and collect it from the TVM at Riddlesdown. You then have the option of seeing all the fares available structure. Buying a ticket for a child(ren) maybe best done this way.


The London Freedom Pass

This Pass is supplied by the London Councils (all the London Boroughs and City of London) to residents of London.


There are two types of Freedom Pass.

1. The Disabled Pass is available to anybody with a qualifying disability (see website for full list) who lives in a London Borough and is part of the National disability scheme.


2. The Older Persons Freedom Pass is available to residents of a London Borough who have reached the state pension age.


Validity  London :


More information and how to apply;
http://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/services/freedom-pass


60+ Concessionary Travel Scheme:

The former London Mayor, Boris Johnson, introduced a new 60+ Concessionary Travel Scheme using a variation of the Oystercard from 1 November 2012 for those people over 60 years of age who no longer qualify for a London Freedom Pass. The pass will have the same validity as a Freedom Pass. Further details from the Tfl website or Tfl application page


ROADS


Selsdon Road Closure - Rail Bridge Renewal

Updated 1/11/20

Selsdon Road

Network Rail will be closing Selsdon Road between its junctions with Chelsham Road and Sussex Road southside from 19 October 2020 to 15 January 2021.


This is to facilitate bridge replacement and enabling works - cable bridge installation and removal, track lift and slew, piling for abutment extension, removal of existing bridge, installing new bridge. The signed diversion for displaced traffic will be Brighton Road/ A22 / Downs Court Rd / Mitchley Avenue / Rectory Park / Addington Rd / Selsdon Park Rd / Gravel Hill / Coombe Lane / Coombe Rd / St Peters Road/Croham Road.


Sussex Road is open for the first phase so the 412 and 403 buses will be operating as usual. Discussions are in place with TfL regarding the closure of Sussex Road(the side nearest Carlton Road) at Christmas time and further information will be sent out as the scheme progresses.


Letter issued by Network Rail to local residents


Official Diversion Route
Please note the signed diversion is not via Sussex Road to minimise the impact on residents and hopefully the Council will not need to put in parking suspensions on this street. This will be monitored.



Essential Water Main Works on Godstone Road, Purley - A22

Deferred until 2021

Updated 24/5/20


It has has been advertised that the planned road closure, from Tuesday 26 May, of the Godstone Rd (A22) near to the Tesco store by SES Water for water a new water main, has now been deferred again, but this time until 2021.


We understand Croydon Council will be pushing for the works to be carried out during the 6 week school summer holiday next year, after consultations have been undertaken with all agencies.


These works have to be done at some time and in our view this is just delaying the inevitable until next year, when traffic levels will probably be much higher than at present!


SES have more information on their website



Local Road Works

Update on nearby roadworks from Croydon Council - 4/11/20


Pampisford Road

The outstanding completion of the service pipes renewal (from the footway / verge into the residential properties as part of the SGN gas main replacement scheme is now underway. Two way temporary lights will be in situ off peak to facilitate any footway closures that might be necessary. This work will be completed by 23 November.


St Augustines Avenue

St Augustines Avenue remains closed at its junction with Pampisford Road, to provide storage for material and a welfare unit, until 24 November.


Selsdon Road

Network Rail will be closing Selsdon Road between its junctions with Chelsham Road and Sussex Road southside from 19th October to 15th January.  This is to facilitate bridge replacement and enabling works - cable bridge installation and removal, track lift and slew, piling for abutment extension, removal of existing bridge, installing new bridge. The signed diversion for displaced traffic will be Brighton Road/  A22 / Downs Court Rd / Mitchley Avenue / Rectory Park / Addington Rd / Selsdon Park Rd / Gravel Hill / Coombe Lane / Coombe Rd / St Peters Road/Croham Road.


Sunny Nook Gardens

SGN will be carrying out a gas mains replacement scheme in the footway of Sunny Nook Gardens from 26 October to 22 November, A pedestrian walkway will be provided.


Selsdon Road

SGN will be using 2 way temp signals on Selsdon Road to facilitate gas mains replacement works in Sunny Nook Gardens from 26 October to 22 November.


Coulsdon Road

Two way temporary signals, which will include a pedestrian phase as the main pedestrianised signals will be switched off, will be installed on Coulsdon Road near its junction with Keston Avenue. The works will commence on Monday 9 November and are expected to be completed by 30 November.


Lion Green Road

Lion Green Road will be closed northbound from its junction with Brighton Road towards Chipstead Valley Road to facilitate gas works on 14th/15th November. The diversion for displaced traffic will be via Farthing Way, Brighton Road, Banstead Road, Foxley Lane, Smitham Bottom Lane and Woodcote Grove Road.


London Road

Thames Water have to carry out a remedial repair on the reinstatement of the carriageway at the junction with Canterbury Road. They will be controlling the traffic with multi way signals which will be manually controlled during the morning and evening peak. This work will be carried out on 14th/15th November.


Hartley Down

To facilitate a new gas connection SGN will be installing two way temporary signals from 23rd to 30th November.


A22 (Godstone Rd) - Red route proposals to commence in 2020

Update 3/2/19

Transport for London (TfL) consulted with residents and stakeholders in the summer of 2017 about proposals to changes to the double and single line red route on the A22 (Godstone Rd) from Foxley Hill Road to Old Barn Lane (at the Borough boundary to Whyteleafe).


They also proposed other works which included changes to bus stop facilities: improved zebra crossings; and changes to road layouts at some side road and designated parking areas. The RRA did submit our comments at the time, regarding these proposals.


Following careful consideration of the consultation responses received, TfL have decided to proceed with the scheme as proposed, with the some alterations. These works will commence in early 2019 and will run to 2020. Their full report is on this link

Update 18/3/20

The RRA understand there have been some design and land ownership issues since the above consultation and this is the reason for the delay. These works are due to commence at sometime in 2020. But TfL have advised recently that it is still not possible to confirm a start date as yet, as they need to take into account a number of factors, such as roadworks elsewhere, planned or unplanned via Surrey County Council, and the London Boroughs of Croydon and Sutton. As we are also in extraordinary times with coronavirus they also need to take into account staff availability. We will update more in due course.



Advice on E Scooters

New 23/7/20


Some people have been seen riding E-scooters on local roads in the last 3 weeks or so and these individuals are doing so illegally.


The Govt have relaxed the law from 4 July 2020 (1 year trial) and made it legal to ride on the road but only if the E-scooter has been hired. Currently there are no hire firms within London.


You cannot as yet ride your own E-scooter on the roads, or pavements. You can only ride it on private land.


There is also a link to the BBC website giving more advice.


This is guidance/advice below (which as been passed to us by the the local SNT) has been given to Met Police Officers:


"You will have seen a number of articles in the media over the last few weeks regarding E-scooters and an upcoming trial in London. Unfortunately much of what has been reported is not entirely accurate. In order to provide some clarity to the public on how operational officers are dealing with this please read the below guidance around E-scooter use.


Policing style: The approach from the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) is to support the government trial of this new mode of transport. There has been a significant amount of media information released, some of which is not accurate, and this may have led some sections of the public to believe that the use of E-Scooters has been made legal from Saturday 4th July. This is not the case and the legal exemptions coming into force only apply to those E-Scooters which are part of the approved schemes. However, at this time there are no approved schemes currently running in London. Further details will be published in the coming weeks when a provider has been identified. The policing style, at this time, in regards to E-Scooter use will be one of engagement and education in the first instance. With enforcement undertaken at officers discretion taking into account repeat offending or behaviour/use of an E-scooter which poses a particular risk.


Legal considerations: Only E-scooters part of the official scheme will be afforded exemption from current legislation, once an operator has been selected for the London trial they will provide easily recognisable scooters for hire. For the hire scheme E-scooter trial all riders will be required to be 16 or over and have either a provisional or full driving licence although there will be no specific category that covers the device. E-scooters should not be ridden on the pavement. But you should expect to see them in the road or in cycle lanes. Personal E-scooters will continue to be subjected to existing legislation under the Road Traffic Act and should be viewed much in the same way as any other powered 2 wheeled mechanically propelled vehicle (mini-moto, scrambler bike etc.). Accordingly offences such as no insurance and not in accordance offences may be considered as applicable to anyone riding one on a public road. However, we will bear in mind the comments above in relation to media releases, policing style, and appropriate use of enforcement powers. Essentially lee way will be given due to being misled by the media E-scooters are mechanically propelled vehicles and anyone driving one whilst intoxicated may be committing an offence. However, any offences regarding drink/drug drive are likely to fall under Section 4 RTA 1988. Section 5 RTA 1988 applies to motor vehicles only and is unlikely to be applicable to E-scooters.


Enforcement: Guidance issued under Operation Hornet will continue, allowing officers to give a warning to users that are riding under the belief that they are legal. In general the intent will be to Educate, Engage, and Inform.


With Enforcement options available when the riding combined with other aggravating factors is present.


Rental E-scooters will have a top speed of 15.5mph, however there are a number of faster devices on the open market, bear this is mind if you wish to stop and speak to the rider and use appropriate caution."




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